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Okay. Global Player Original Podcast Hello and welcome to full disclosure, a podcast, project conceived entirely to allow me to spend more time than I'd ever get on the radio with interesting people and Robert Rinder MBE thank you for coming I this will go out within days

of you having presented the trick awards yesterday so congratulations on handling a very interesting

room in which I briefly found myself. But it's evidence,

I suppose, of your portfolio career, where you are now, doing lots of things, some of which

I imagine were planned and some of which weren't. But we usually begin at the very beginning.

And it occurred to me that your life story, even more than most people, is several life stories.

I mean, the influences that you were exposed to growing up

and the family history is so extraordinary

that it being a large part of who you are

is more interesting than it is with other people.

I wonder if that's true. I always feel when somebody asks me that question or puts in that

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