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Welcome back to the Independent Republic and Mike Graham right here on Talk TV, with you all the way through until 1 o'clock of course, and it'll be time for Ian Collins.

We've had a rip, a snorter of a regiae result, we have to say, we're rather pleased about it, not least because an awful lot of people seem to have deserted the BBC and the wokeocracy that I've just invented as a word to describe all of these wokeists in various different parts of Britain.

They fed up, simply fed up with the Today programme, simply fed up with Radio 4 in particular and all of the stuff that they spout on about endlessly.

And they'd rather have the real truth and nothing but the truth here at Talk TV, of course.

And who better to ask about that and to ask about the workocracy than Rod Little.

Colin's at the Sunday Times, who's every Thursday now joining us for his take on the way things are.

Rod, a very good afternoon to you. Welcome back.

Good afternoon to you, Mike.

Nice to hear you. And I see your voice. And good news about the BBC as well.

Isn't it just? Yeah. I mean, it might take a while, but we'll get them in the end.

Wokeocracy is a word I invented just this morning, which I think is quite good. I'm not sure whether it has a silent E or we take the E out, but wokeocracy sort of seems to me to describe the state of this country that we, if we're not

careful, it will become. I think we're fighting back and we're valiantly fighting back.

But there's an awful lot of wokeery to fight, isn't there?

Yeah, you don't need the E. You're quite right. I've called it a tossocracy.

But I've worked for the BBC, Mike.

You know?

And you live to tell the tale.

I live to tell the tale.

Yeah, I mean, do you know, I had a drama on Radio 4 the other week, about a week ago,

and it was really interesting.

But that's it.

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