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The New Yorker Radio Hour

Ryan Coogler on “Sinners”

The New Yorker Radio Hour

WNYC Studios and The New Yorker

News, David, Books, Arts, Storytelling, Wnyc, New, Remnick, News Commentary, Yorker, Politics

4.25.5K Ratings

🗓️ 15 April 2025

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

The director talks with the staff writer Jelani Cobb about his influences and mentors, and how he made a vampire story “uniquely personal.”

Transcript

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0:00.0

Listener supported, WNYC Studios.

0:10.8

This is The New Yorker Radio Hour, a co-production of WNYC Studios and The New Yorker.

0:17.9

This is the New Yorker Radio Hour. I'm David Remnick.

0:23.0

Ryan Coogler began his career in film as a realist. His indie debut is called Fruitvale

0:29.9

Station. It's a tragedy about a police killing in the Bay Area train station, and it scrupulously

0:35.6

followed the last day of the victim's life, leading

0:38.2

up to the shooting. Cougler moved from there to the drama of creed about a young boxer,

0:45.8

a film that was in the line of Rocky. And then he went on to make the super commercial

0:50.9

widescreen fantasy, a Marvel hit called Black Panther, of course.

0:56.6

In his new movie, which is called Sinners, Ryan Coogler is still dealing with themes of race

1:01.8

and history and faith, but this time he's packed it with vampires.

1:06.4

What y'all doing? Just step aside and let me on in now.

1:10.4

Why you need him to do that?

1:12.6

You big and strong enough to push passes?

1:14.6

Well, that wouldn't be too polite now, would it, Miss Andy?

1:18.6

I don't know why I'm talking to you anyway.

1:21.6

Don't talk to him. You're talking to me right now.

1:24.6

Why you can't just walk your big ass up in here without an environment, huh?

1:28.7

Go ahead.

1:29.8

Admit to it.

1:31.8

Admit to what?

1:33.3

That you dead.

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