The new podcast In the Shadow of Princeton starts as the matriarch of a prominent Princeton family is found stabbed to death in her locked basement.

Investigators look from a serial attacker to her family to Princeton University students.

One hop let it investigator sees a conspiracy. Is he way off base or does privilege let you get away with murder?

In the Shadow of Princeton is available wherever you get podcasts or you can binge it ad free

by joining Wondery Plus in the Wondery app, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify. Hey, hey, where you been?

But what you've been?

The buck I talk is about to begin.

Hey, hey, hey, come on in.

Welcome back to Buckeye Talk, I'm Stephen Means and with my co-host

Stefan Krijnick and Andrew Gillis. We think this is not going to be negative.

As a matter of fact, I'm going to be negative.

As a matter of fact, I'm going to speak it into existence.

This will not be a negative podcast.

I don't think it, that doesn't mean it's going to be positive.

It just means it's not going to be

negative we are going to have a conversation and it's going to be called who

needs it more and it's about Ohio State versus Penn State on Saturday another top five matchup

Penn State number three Ohio State number four in the country. This is the second time in the last

three games of Ohio State's playing the number three team in the country on the road.

Obviously they lost the first one to Oregon 32 to 31. They're

hoping for a different result in this game. And we're not doing a draft here. We're going to have a consensus and try to come to a an agreement on a

top six and everybody in the sphere of Ohio State and Penn State is on the table to be picked here and to be brought up for

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