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The Bulwark Podcast

S2 Ep1015: Bill Kristol: The High Cost of Stupidity

The Bulwark Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.6 • 8.9K Ratings

🗓️ 7 April 2025

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Part of the reason for the market bloodbath is because the finance wizzes didn't factor in that Trump would actually do the truly moronic thing he kept saying he would. Their shock over his recklessness is intensifying the crash. Meanwhile, a trio of administration fools trying to defend the tariffs—Lutnick, Bessent, and Hassett—showed there is no grand design to the trade war, White House infighting is getting hot enough that even Elon is subtweeting Trump, and the folks we elected over on the Hill could actually do something to try to stop the market carnage. Plus, new reporting on our government's kidnapping of migrants, Republicans in North Carolina are trying to steal a supreme court seat, and where is JD Vance?

Bill Kristol joins Tim Miller for the weekend pod.

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the board podcast.

0:10.0

I'm your host Tim Miller.

0:11.5

Trouble inside the Trump administration.

0:13.7

Big trouble in the markets,

0:14.9

trouble in the world.

0:16.3

It's a bloodbath, in particular in the S&P,

0:19.7

which is now its worst three-day performance since 1987, as Trump refuses to back off his moronic tariff regime.

0:28.4

Here to discuss that and much more.

0:30.8

It's Monday.

0:31.5

So it's Bullwark editor at large.

0:32.8

Bill Crystal.

0:33.7

Hey, Bill, what's up?

0:34.5

Hang it in there, Tim.

0:35.4

How are you?

0:36.8

I was just talking to your pal Stan Boyger.

0:38.5

He's an economist over at AEI, who's been one of the ones who's been stalwart in opposition

0:44.5

to Trump's excesses, particularly on the economic side of things and his stupid trade wars.

0:50.4

People can check out over on YouTube on the Bullwark takes feed about his paper about how stupid these tariffs are. They're like they didn't even do their own math, right? And we were joking at the end that, you know, the shot in Freud of watching all of the terrible people be wrong and lose money is nice. It's not exactly going to pay for kids' college fund or the

1:14.2

retirement home, you know, so it's mixed feelings. It would be nice if Trump could discredit himself

1:18.4

without ruining the country. I mean, this is the kind of problem we have with having elected Trump.

1:23.6

A point you've been making, I believe, online and on the bulwark on various podcasts and

1:29.1

on the bulwark as well over the last several days, all these people who were like, gee,

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