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The Bulwark Podcast

S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

The Bulwark Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.68.9K Ratings

🗓️ 9 April 2025

⏱️ 80 minutes

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Summary

The White House is pumping out a lot of happy talk about countries wanting to make deals over the tariffs, but the tumult Trump has created has spread to the bond market. And that may be a sign that he has people so spooked about the U.S. economy that our Treasuries are no longer seen as a safe bet. Meanwhile, China has a lot of leverage here and may be using it. 

Plus, the Democrats' candidate recruiter for the midterms, Colorado's Jason Crow, discusses how to win back working class voters. 

Catherine Rampell and Rep. Jason Crow join Tim Miller.

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the Bullard podcast. I'm your host Tim Miller. We got a double header today. Congressman Jason Crow from Colorado in segment two. But first, delighted to bring back a syndicated opinion columnist at The Washington Post. She's joining MSNBC as co-anchor for a new weekend show.

0:24.3

Also a special correspondent for the news hour.

0:26.4

She's busy.

0:27.0

It's Catherine Rampel.

0:28.1

What's up?

0:29.1

Doing okay.

0:30.0

How are you?

0:31.2

Doing okay?

0:33.0

Personally, I'm well.

0:33.9

Well, I don't know.

0:34.7

My 401K doesn't look great.

0:36.3

Democracy doesn't look great. Democracy doesn't look great.

0:37.8

But I have my health.

0:39.0

Yeah.

0:39.7

That's what I'm supposed to tell myself, right?

0:42.1

And we have a long path in front of us.

0:44.8

You know, the college fund, I still got 11 years to rebound to the 401K after, you know,

0:50.5

or it's not the 401k, but the college savings, you know, account.

0:55.3

Well, you're assuming colleges will still be around.

0:58.3

That's a good point.

0:59.3

Which they may or may not be.

1:01.1

We're moving to autarky, as our friend Derek Thompson said.

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