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George Conway Explains It All (To Sarah Longwell)

S2 Ep103: “What They’re Doing is Profoundly Evil and Wrong”

George Conway Explains It All (To Sarah Longwell)

The Bulwark

News, Politics, Society & Culture

4.82.8K Ratings

🗓️ 29 March 2025

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

George Conway explains to JVL the backlash against Trump’s new executive order targeting law firms. They also discuss the legal implications surrounding Rumeysa Ozturk, the Tufts graduate student detained by ICE, and Columbia graduate student Mahmoud Khalil, currently being held in Louisiana, and the legality around the ICE agents being masked. Plus, the controversy over sending detained individuals to El Salvador.

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If it can happen to any of these people, it can happen to any of us, can't it?

0:36.1

And that is exactly the point.

0:38.2

It's like we have due process for a reason.

0:43.2

We have the Sixth Amendment, you know, the right to a jury trial, the Fifth Amendment right

0:49.1

to due process in criminal proceedings, because you might be the one in the dock someday.

1:00.2

Hello, everyone. This is George Conway explains it all to Sarah Longwell. He's George Conway.

1:06.6

I'm not Sarah Longwell. I'm her best friend, JVL, from the bulwark. George, you still do not look like Sarah Longwell. I'm her best friend, JVL from the bulwark. George, you still do not look

1:13.9

like Sarah Longwell. I know. I just want to say that. Things are moving pretty quick. We've had a

1:20.8

lot going on this week. I have so many questions that I want to ask you about the law. But before we get to that, we had a new

1:31.5

Trump executive order targeting Wilmer Hale. Is that, do I have that right? Wilmer Hale?

1:38.8

And they seem to have a great law firm. They seem to have responded in the way that one would hope a major law firm committed to the rule of law would respond. Yes? Yes. They hired the best possible lawyer not at their firm. I mean, they have a great Supreme Court and appellate practice because this is really fundamentally.

2:01.2

These are issues of law.

2:03.2

But they hired somebody.

2:04.6

You could not pick a better lawyer to litigate this case.

2:08.6

They picked Paul Clement, a former Solicitor General of the United States under the Bush administration.

2:16.2

He was the successor to Ted Olson. He is a

2:18.3

conservative, a member of the Federalist Society, and he believes strongly in the rule of law.

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