For us, it's really about designing for the scale.

Eventually, everything will scale that we keep around.

But you need to be able to design it with aspects of things like object-oriented design.

We're using containerized microservices to try to scale one component at a time as needed.

I would say that a lot of times, especially being an engineer,

it's an internal fight between building something that's good enough for right now,

not over-engineering it and making it that really amazing,

cool thing that can scale to infinity. My name is Eric Chelstad, and I'm the CTO and co-founder of Observer.

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I'm your host, Noah Lab Park, and today how Eric Chelsaic built the platform to enable you

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Eric Chelsted is a child of both coats.

In his life, he spent a lot of time skiing and carried that activity into his adult life.

Funny enough, though, he's actually a better boarder than a skier.

He volunteers with the local avalanche centers and climbs mountains where he lives,

which is the Pacific Northwest near Mount Rainier.

He's married and just moved into a house outside of the city.

He has found a new hobby in being a homeowner, which he says is a new platform to play with. cameras, sensors, sprinkler systems, etc. They have a dog, and if they're lucky enough to have kids one day, Eric hopes it will be easier than having a dog and that the kids won't bite him.

In a prior venture, Eric was the owner of bakeries. In developing certain

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