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🗓️ 1 December 2021
⏱️ 40 minutes
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In several countries around the world, including Ecuador, New Zealand, and the U.S., some people are trying to protect the planet using a legal concept called “rights of nature” – infusing the law with Indigenous understandings of Mother Earth. Part 9 of The Repair, our series on the climate emergency.
Reported by Amy Westervelt and Polyglot Barbershop. Script editor, Cheryl Devall. Production and mix by John Biewen. Music in this episode by Lili Haydn, Kim Carroll, Chris Westlake, Lesley Barber, Cora Miron, and Fabian Almazan. Music consulting by Joe Augustine of Narrative Music.
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0:00.0 | Season 5 is made possible in part by listeners who have supported our show and by a grant |
0:11.9 | from the International Women's Media Foundation. |
0:15.3 | Amy, are you some kind of tree hugger? |
0:19.5 | John, you say that like it's an accusation. |
0:22.8 | Well, yes, it is because, you know, in a culture that has normalized tragic |
0:30.7 | astrangement from the rest of the natural world, it is, we all know, ridiculous to have |
0:36.6 | feelings about non-human life for its own sake. |
0:40.2 | Yeah. |
0:41.2 | I really think the environmental movement has kind of over corrected on this front, so |
0:46.3 | for a really long time, it was focused pretty much only on nature to the exclusion of |
0:51.3 | humans, which made it really tough to tie climate into other social justice issues, and |
0:57.6 | that was a big problem. |
0:59.4 | But now I feel like even the climate movement has swung the other way, partly as a reaction |
1:04.8 | to this sort of tree hugger criticism from the right. |
1:08.8 | And I don't think that's great either. |
1:10.6 | I think, you know, we should and could fight for both because we're all connected. |
1:17.1 | Yeah. |
1:18.1 | Oh, yeah, I actually live in a forest and I don't go hug the trees in it, but I do love |
1:24.3 | a good primal forest scream. |
1:27.2 | Ah. |
1:28.2 | I'd like to witness that. |
1:31.5 | And actually, I think that reinforcing our connection to the rest of the natural world |
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