S6 E5: A Way Forward

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Kenan Institute for Ethics at Duke University

Society & Culture, Audiodoc, Radio, Documentary, Stories

4.9 • 11K Ratings

🗓️ 8 February 2024

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

What would it take, and what would it even mean, to heal from a wound like the Wilmington massacre and coup of 1898 — or from centuries of white supremacist violence, disenfranchisement, and theft? An exploration of that question with community members in Wilmington, and experts on restorative justice and reparations.

By Michael A. Betts, II and John Biewen. Interviews with Bertha Boykin Todd, Cedric Harrison, Christopher Everett, Kim Cook, William Sturkey, Inez Campbell-Eason, Sonya Bennetonne-Patrick, Candice Robinson, Paul Jervay,Kieran Haile, Larry Reni Thomas, William “Sandy” Darity, and Michelle Lanier. Story editor: Loretta Williams. Voice actor: Mike Wiley. Music by Kieran Haile, Blue Dot Sessions, Okaya, and Lucas Biewen. Art by Zaire McPhearson. “Echoes of a Coup” is an initiative of America’s Hallowed Ground, a project of the Kenan Institute for Ethics at Duke University.

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0:00.0	I'm David Remnickin each week on the New Yorker radio hour. My colleagues and I
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0:29.2	Michael, I really don't think we could hear too much in this series from Mrs. Bertha Boykin- Todd.
0:37.0	I couldn't agree more, John.
0:39.0	We've heard from Mrs. Todd in a lived there for only 70 plus years.
0:53.5	She grew up in Sampson County, 60 miles from Wilmington, and got her master's degree
0:58.3	at the Historically Black North Carolina Central College, now Central University in Durham.
1:04.3	She moved to Wilmington in 1952.
1:07.5	We were both so struck by what she told us about that experience.
1:10.8	She'd been hired fresh out of her master's program as a media specialist at
1:15.1	Williston, the city's Black High School. It was a culture shock. Why culture shock? This was the
1:22.1	Jim Crow South and there's a tendency maybe for those of us who never lived in it,
1:27.0	to think that segregated white supremacist world was more or less the same everywhere, at least within a given state.
1:35.4	But no.
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