So we felt very confident about knowing the problem space very well.

Then it was all about finding problem solution fit.

And the way we went about finding problem solution fit was experimental.

And the analogy I love using is finding this fit for us was kind of like throwing darts blindly at a dart form.

The best way to hit a bull's eye is to throw a ton of darts

and to learn from each dart that you miss.

The worst thing to do is to spend a lot of time on one dart,

make it super aerodynamic, paint it and make it look great and everything,

and throw it and it wildly misses the market.

I think the latter is more or less what we did.

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