This is the Concealed Carry Podcast, Season 8, Episode 16.

Welcome to the Concealed Carry podcast, part of the Concealed Carry.com network, a podcast brought to you by Mountain Man Medical. Today is Thursday, June 8th, 2023. And I'm your host, Jacob Paulson. And today I'm also joined by Matthew Marister. Hello, hello. It's going to be a good time. Riley's not here with us. He's traveling to a USPSA match. then later this weekend he'll be teaching a class down of Texas.

And so we will proceed in life without Riley for this time around.

We appreciate everyone who's here with us live.

This is also being recorded.

We'll be published later in our odd up podcast feed via consult carey.com.

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you know, Google podcasts and iTunes and Spotify's and audibles and all the places.

All right. So before, you know, we dive into the nuts and bolts of this, let me kind of introduce the topic here.

I've been a fireman instructor for a few minutes since 2007.

And my curriculum, my class, my content that I teach in my standard consult carry class has changed a lot, as I would hope it would for anyone

has been doing it for that long because I keep changing. What I understand, what I know, what I think

to be true, what I believe to be the most important things to convey to those students also changes.

And I happen to have always spent that part of my life, my fireman instructor life, in states

where I can teach

darn near whatever I want. I started out in Utah where they did have some mandatory curriculum,

but there's some flexibility on how you talk about things. And if you want to add in additional

things, but now I'm in Colorado where Matthew, I don't know if you knew this, but I can

teach students whatever I want. So long as I go over some basic safety

rules, the rest of the class is completely up to me. And so I've complete autonomy that way.

And so a few years ago, a student made a comment to me about how overwhelming it is, like how

it feels like they've got to buy all this stuff. And I was like, oh my gosh, like have I given

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