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The Ezra Klein Show

Sabbath and the Art of Rest

The Ezra Klein Show

New York Times Opinion

Society & Culture, Government, News

4.611K Ratings

🗓️ 3 January 2023

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

Do we know how to truly rest? Who would we be if we did? I’ve been wrestling with these questions since I read Abraham Joshua Heschel’s stunning book “The Sabbath” in college. The ancient Jewish ritual of the Sabbath reserves a full day per week for rest. As it’s commonly practiced, that means about 25 hours every week of no work, very little technology and plenty of in-person gathering. But the Sabbath is a much more radical approach to rest than a simple respite from work and technology. Implicit in the practice of the Sabbath is a stinging critique of the speed at which we live our lives, the ways we choose to spend our time and how we think about the idea of rest itself. That, at least, is a central argument of Judith Shulevitz’s wonderful book, “The Sabbath World: Glimpses of a Different Order of Time.” Shulevitz is a longtime culture critic and currently a contributing writer for The Atlantic. Her book isn’t just about the Sabbath itself, it’s about the world the Sabbath tries to create: one with an entirely different conception of time, morality, rest and community. It’s the kind of world that is wholly different from our own, and one whose wisdom is urgently needed. So, to kick off the new year, I invited Shulevitz on the show to explore what the Sabbath is, the value system embedded within it and what lessons it holds for our lives. I left the conversation feeling awed by how such an ancient practice can feel simultaneously so radical and yet so incredibly urgent. Mentioned: The Sabbath by Abraham Joshua Heschel I and Thou by Martin Buber Book Recommendations: Adam Bede by George Eliot The Seven Day Circle by Eviatar Zerubavel On the Clock by Emily Guendelsberger Thoughts? Email us at [email protected]. Guest suggestions? Fill out this form. You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast, and you can find Ezra on Twitter @ezraklein. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs. “The Ezra Klein Show” is produced by Emefa Agawu, Annie Galvin, Jeff Geld, Rogé Karma and Kristin Lin. Fact-checking by Michelle Harris, Mary Marge Locker and Kate Sinclair. Original music by Isaac Jones. Mixing by Jeff Geld. Audience strategy by Shannon Busta. The executive producer of New York Times Opinion audio is Annie-Rose Strasser. Special thanks to Pat McCusker.

Transcript

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0:00.0

I'm Ezra Klein, this is the Ezra Conchell.

0:24.8

This episode for me today has its roots way back, and so I'm going to take a moment in

0:28.8

setting it up. When I was in college, a rabbi I knew, he gave me Abraham Joshua Heschel's

0:34.6

book The Sabbath, and I love that book. I've probably read it a dozen times since. And the

0:41.0

reason it's mattered to me so much for so long is not just about the idea of the Sabbath.

0:46.7

It's a critique of the way many of us certainly me live. A critique of the way our world has

0:52.7

been designed. Heschel's argument is it the modern world is obsessed with questions of

0:57.9

space. We spend our days trying to master the spaces in which we live, building in them,

1:03.1

acquiring from them, traversing them. And what we spend to do that is the time that we have

1:09.4

to live. He writes, quote, most of us seem to labor for the sake of things of space. As a result,

1:16.1

we suffer from a deeply rooted dread of time and stand a gas when compelled to look into its

1:22.2

face. That line has always felt true to me. It's always felt true about me. But I must

1:29.8

ignore it's trueness. There's stuff to do every day. Maybe what's changed recently is

1:34.6

that I've got an older. Maybe it's that I've had children or I'm seeing my own parents

1:38.2

age. But I've had more trouble ignoring that trueness. I don't think the speed at which

1:45.0

I live, at which I move through time, at which I see the people around me living and moving

1:49.3

through time is a speed that any of us really want. I don't think the habits that I've cultivated

1:55.6

here are really good ones. So become interested in what this old practice has to say about how

2:01.8

I live and how we live today. Hashtag has this line. Six days a week we seek to dominate

2:08.5

the world. On the seventh day we try to dominate the self. It's amazing how much harder

2:13.6

that has to do. But I can't take the question of what if I did actually spend a full seventh

2:18.7

of my life, which is what the Sabbath is supposed to be, living at a different speed. Who

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