Larry is joined by award-winning sportswriter and author Sally Jenkins to discuss her new book ‘The Right Call: What Sports Teach Us About Work and Life’. They begin by talking about some of the world-class athletes that inspired her to write the book, how talent was such a small part of each of their successes, and the lessons non-athletes can garner from their stories. This leads to conversation about the importance of practice and honest self evaluation when working to achieve personal goals, using the preparation exercises of icons like Steph Curry, Peyton Manning, and Pat Summit as examples (26:25). After the break Larry and Sally examine the importance of team culture, the obstacles within coaching or directing exceptional talent, and how to utilize failure in a positive way (35:31). They end the pod by shining a light on the individual perseverance and friendship between Martina Navratilova and Chris Evert, giving flowers to Sally’s legendary sportswriter dad Dan Jenkins, and discussing some of their favorite athletes (50:39). Host: Larry Wilmore Guest: Sally Jenkins Associate Producer: Chris Sutton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices