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yeah i'm well i'm in mdc port Brooklyn, in a little side room.

How long have you been there?

I've been in prison for about, oh boy, what's it been now?

It's been about two years.

So what's it like?

It's, I mean, it's sort of dystopian.

You know, the fortunate thing, the place I'm in, I'm not in sort of, I'm not in physical danger.

And, you know, frankly, a lot of the staff, they're trying to be helpful.

They're trying to, you know, do what they can, given the constraints.

But, you know, no one wants to be in prison.

And you can imagine what happens when you take sort of 40 people, you know, all of whom have been at least charged with crimes and walk them in a single room for years on end and throw out the key, which is the most trivial things become

all that people have left to care about.

Yes.

Have you had any problems?

Not of the sort of acute kind.

Like I haven't had, you know, I haven't been attacked or anything like that.

I've had a lot of logistical problems.

And, you know, the biggest, frankly, was when I was on trial,

trying to get access to legal work was nearly impossible.

I would, you know, on a typical trial day, they'd wake me up at 4 a.m.

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