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🗓️ 24 June 2024
⏱️ 45 minutes
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Writer and podcaster Sarah Hepola returns to The Unspeakable to talk about love, sex, #MeToo, Harvey Weinstein’s overturned rape conviction, her new job at The Dallas Morning News, her book in progress, and why she thinks local reporting will lead the way out of the media abyss.
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Sarah Hepola is a features staff writer at the Dallas Morning News, the cohost with Nancy Rommelmann of the Smoke ‘Em If You Got Em podcast and author of the 2015 best-selling memoir Blackout. She was also the host and creator of the Texas Monthly podcast "America's Girls," about the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders.
Read her work at the Dallas Morning News here.
Listen to her podcast about the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders, “America’s Girls,” here.
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0:00.0 | I think that I have just been completely sick and allergic to the way that discourse has happened around topics that I hold really dear, which is sexual freedom, individual agency, relationships between men and women, love and sex, modern dating. |
0:20.5 | All of these things felt like they got |
0:22.4 | absolutely like poison-pilled over the last 10 years. |
0:28.9 | Welcome to the unspeakable podcast. I'm your host, Megan Dowm. That is how I just pronounced |
0:34.1 | my name. Is it going to stick? We shall see. Anyway, my guest is |
0:38.3 | returning guest, I think four-time returning guest, Sarah Heppala. Sarah is one of my favorite |
0:44.4 | people to have on the podcast. She has a way of making the most surprising and intense |
0:50.4 | conversations also feel leisurely and relaxed. It's a perfect conversation to have for |
0:57.1 | this summer. We're going to be kind of taking things a little more easily for the next couple of |
1:02.6 | weeks. Anyway, Sarah covers all kinds of subjects in her writing and also in the podcast she does |
1:08.0 | with Nancy Rommelman, Smoke him if you got him. |
1:23.9 | But she's especially insightful when it comes to challenging assumptions and conventional wisdom around power dynamics in relationships, especially when it comes to the Me Too movement. |
1:30.1 | Sarah loves digging into high-profile Me Too cases. She covered the Amber Heard Johnny Depp trial for her podcast. And she's talked with me here about the case of Brock Turner, the Stanford |
1:35.7 | Swimmer, who was convicted of felony sexual assault in 2016. She has also done some deep dives |
1:42.7 | into Harvey Weinstein's rape conviction in New York, which was recently overturned. |
1:48.5 | Anyway, we talk about all of that here, as well as Sarah's new job as a staff features writer at her hometown newspaper, The Dallas Morning News. |
1:58.1 | She talks about the freedom she's gained from doing local reporting |
2:01.2 | rather than arguing with people online about national politics. She also talks about the book |
2:06.4 | she's writing, which is about staying single into middle age, despite her desire to settle down |
2:12.0 | and have a family. And she even talks about a brand new relationship she's in with a man 12 years younger, |
2:19.8 | an unspeakable exclusive. |
2:22.1 | We cover a lot of ground here. |
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