This isn't your average business podcast and he's not your average host.

This is the James Altature Show. It's funny to find the last eight years went so quickly.

It did for and I guess you know obviously we're both getting older, but it seems like one consistent arc because eight years ago started the whole kind of Trump cycle.

So it's like this been one political arc where we went from an

Obama-Romney-McCain type of country to a Trump-Hilary-Biden type of country.

Yeah, we've seen it all and now this feels like kind of a repeat in the way. Do you feel that?

It's like, oh God, not another Trump run for president.

It's a repeat, but it's also like Return of the Jedi.

So like Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back sets up the story.

And now there better be a fucking close to this story or something bad's going to happen.

Yeah, I've been talking about this as a three act movie for years and oh my God is the movie nice but the

thing the movie requires is the Krakan the the Krakan has to appear before the election.

In other words, there has to be a legitimate court-confirmed problem with the election.

Yeah, and I heard you talking about that just now on your coffee with Sky Adams,

which I actually want to talk about that format with you a little later, but you mentioned how basically you know so there's been a lot of

cybersecurity conferences this summer the biggest one is Def Con so basically

there you mentioned there's been a cyber security conference recently where a bunch of kids in room hacked every aspect of the election of a simulated election using the latest software machines and so on and your point is why even have election if this is true and B

obviously if a bunch of kids can do it China can do it if China can do it we can do it

to them so it's all a mess.

And there's not really a solution.

There really isn't.

I mean, the solution is, which also you kind of suggest,

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