and Hi, my name is Chris Brennan, and you're listening to The Astrology Podcast.

This episode was recorded on, what is it, Tuesday, February 20, 2018, starting just

after 201 PM in Denver, Colorado, and this is the 144th episode of the show.

In this episode I'm going to be talking with Kelly Surtees about the timing technique known

as secondary progressions. For more information about how to

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subscribe. Hey Kelly, welcome back to the show. podcast. literally today just released our last episode, which is our Q&A episode and the first episode of February,

because I'm a little bit behind, but one of the things that we noticed when we were gathering questions

was we actually got a lot of questions about secondary progressions for that episode.

And so we decided instead of answering them there to sort of hold off and do an entire episode on the topic

because it actually looked back after 144 episodes somehow I haven't actually done an episode dedicated entirely to secondary progressions until now and you are the main person I know who specializes in that topic.

So I'm excited to talk to you about it today.

Thanks, yeah, I'm probably excessively excited to talk with you about this. Right, this is your main obsession, this is your main technique. Yeah, it's a technique that it was sort of the first of the main timing technique that I was taught as a baby astrologer and for whatever reason it was a combination of learning it early in my process and my practice, but also just really feeling, I guess, alignment or integrity around the technique. You know I like the flow of it I like the the way it works and and then I've really started to enjoy how I see it in action in terms of timing and symbolism and accuracy with clients charts so it's definitely my go to

timing technique. All right brilliant well I'm excited to get into it so secondary progress, let's do a little bit of background

information first. So this has become one of the most common timing

techniques in modern astrology, probably second only to transit.

Would you say that that's accurate?

Yes.

Okay, so pretty much over the past century or so.

And one of the things though that's surprising about that or is kind of surprising if you're a modern astrologer

that learns astrology in that context is that where it's such a popular technique over the past century is that evidently it's only become popular in the past few centuries and

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