'Selling the Dream' — with Jane Marie
Everything is Fine
Jennifer Romolini and Kim France
4.8 • 875 Ratings
🗓️ 22 April 2024
⏱️ 51 minutes
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Summary
Our guest this week is writer and podcaster Jane Marie. Jane is a Peabody and Emmy Award–winning journalist, a former producer of This American Life, the host of the acclaimed podcast, The Dream, and, more recently, Dear Jane Marie, and the co-founder of the podcast studio Little Everywhere. Her first book, Selling The Dream: The Billion Dollar Industry Bankrupting America came out last month. We're talking all about Jane's work along with money, class, aging, ambition, the scam of "soulmates" and a whole lot more.
You can find Jane at: https://www.jane-marie.com/
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| 0:00.0 | Hi and |
| 0:05.0 | welcome to Everything Is Fine a Podcast for Women Over 40. |
| 0:08.0 | We are your hosts. I'm Kim France. |
| 0:11.0 | And I'm Jen Romelini. |
| 0:12.0 | And Jen, you just cheered me up I was really depressed and you cheered me out I did I did I did I told you some very off the record stories but they worked they worked. They worked. Well, listen, what I was saying to you is like, you know, when you work from home and you work for yourself, it's like really, you can get really in your head. It's really hard to like to keep perspective going. You know you need those like weird small |
| 0:38.8 | interactions with people that just sort of like take you out of your own brain every day I think. |
| 0:44.0 | Yeah you really do it really do and I really miss having a lot of those |
| 0:48.1 | interactions. Yeah yeah like I used to think of them as such a waste of time when I |
| 0:52.3 | would like remember Betty |
| 0:53.6 | remember Betty the receptionist |
| 0:56.2 | Betty the receptionist from glamor magazine oh god okay so Betty was like I |
| 1:00.7 | don't know is 75 if she was a day I don't know is 75 if she was a day I know like she was so she was an older woman she had white white |
| 1:09.1 | white hair she always wore like elaborate scarves and she would like sometimes I would see her like sort of dancing outside of the Conde Nasse building with the scarf like she was zainy, but she had the most like glowing lovely energy of anybody in the Conde Nes Building. |
| 1:26.0 | She was just like a beam of light. |
| 1:28.8 | She and she would say that when she died because I think she died or when she was fired because they have at one point fired all the receptionists at |
| 1:35.9 | Conde Nas. Remember that? Yeah they just had just had ghost desks on each floor. |
| 1:41.0 | But apparently Betty was famous because she would sometimes, she felt like a |
| 1:46.8 | young, a promising young man was calling one of the female editors and she was excited |
| 1:52.4 | about it. She'd actually leave her post and go to the person and say |
| 1:56.9 | There's a young man on the phone for you. He sounds very nice |
| 2:01.8 | No, she was she was a delight and like that's the thing about offices like |
| 2:07.7 | so many of us are working from home like you just don't get that kind of |
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