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The New Yorker Radio Hour

Senator Chris Murphy: “This Is How Democracy Dies—Everybody Just Gets Scared”

The New Yorker Radio Hour

WNYC Studios and The New Yorker

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4.25.5K Ratings

🗓️ 28 March 2025

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

The Trump Administration is moving to prevent fair elections in 2026, the Connecticut Democrat says. “It won’t matter if we’re more popular than them.”

Transcript

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0:00.0

Listener supported, WNYC Studios.

0:10.8

This is The New Yorker Radio Hour, a co-production of WNYC Studios and The New Yorker.

0:18.3

Welcome to The New Yorker Radio Hour. I'm David Remnick.

0:22.2

As Donald Trump carries out a radical plan to slash the federal government to a nub, no matter what the cost or who's going to pay it, his most obvious accomplices are congressional Republicans.

0:34.3

Politicians who, with almost no exceptions, will not dare risk his wrath or risk a

0:40.1

primary challenge. But also notable is the Democratic opposition or the lack thereof. In the House,

0:47.5

minority leader Hakim Jeffries says he won't swing at every pitch from the administration,

0:53.3

as though this were a baseball game.

0:55.5

Chuck Schumer's vote to back the Republican budget in order to avoid a government shutdown

0:59.5

enraged many in the congressional rank and file.

1:03.2

So the Democratic Party now seems paralyzed.

1:07.1

Senator Chris Murphy has emerged as one of the most vehement critics

1:10.6

of what you might call the business-as-usual approach by the Democrats.

1:15.1

Murphy says, we have months, not years, before American democracy is damaged beyond repair.

1:23.1

In other words, if there's an emergency, act like it's an emergency.

1:29.0

I spoke with Senator Chris Murphy last week. Senator, I wonder if we could try to define the crisis that we're in. I'm of

1:38.3

the opinion that the Trump administration is intent on creating a kind of American-style authoritarian situation.

1:48.1

Do you agree with me?

1:49.8

I do.

1:51.0

Long ago, the Republican Party decided that they cared more about power than they did democracy.

1:57.8

That's what January 6 was all about, regardless of who won the election.

2:03.3

They wanted to make sure that their person was in charge. They believe, and have long,

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