Hello, this is Emma Ganon, and thank you for listening to this podcast. I just wanted to let you know that my new book, The Success Myth, Letting Go of Having It All, is out on May the 18th.

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And this book is about getting back to yourself, breaking free, finding a new way forward.

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Hello, and welcome back to Control Out Delete. This is a replay episode with the brilliant activist and entrepreneur, Shae Akiwoko, the founder and director of Glitch, a not-for-profit organisation determined to end online abuse.

They really do fantastic work. Shae is amazing. In 2018, she was named Stylist Magazine's Woman of the Week. She's done incredible work with Amnesty International, and she's part of the Toxic Twitter campaign,

which was set up to end online abuse against women. In this episode, we discussed the rise of online abuse, gender-based abuse, how we can tackle this, how we can be better allies to each other online and offline,

and it was just so great talking to her about all her amazing work.

Since we recorded this episode, Shae has also gone and written a book all about this. It's called How to Stay Safe Online. It's a digital self-care toolkit, and it's all about developing resilience and allyship, and it's just really great.

And I just wanted to give that a shout out because we recorded this episode before that book came out. So I'll leave a link below, and I hope you enjoy this conversation.

Oh, it's so amazing watching what you've been up to and just watching everything grow. And well, I just wanted to start off really by saying congratulations.

I've seen all the amazing work you've done with the partnership with Twitter as well. So it's a great time for glitch, isn't it?

Thanks. Yeah, glitch died off as a one woman band at an oops baby, an accident three over three years ago, and it's really rewarding and emotional to see milestones and fruition now and have a team and be able to take leave and no glitch is not going to be quiet because I'm not there responding to tweets.

There's a team there and yeah, the the partnership with Twitter and around black lives matter online and mental health and and digital self care is is really important to us and and really look forward to kind of working with them on building on that.

Yeah, because I was thinking about you a lot actually during lockdown and thinking about glitch and obviously back when we met online safety digital safety talking about online abuse, you know,

it's always been relevant, but I kind of felt like it feels like the amount of abuse has gone up during lockdown.

When we saw COVID happening on the lockdown measures, the same thought that you had Emma like, oh my gosh, we're going to, you're going to be in lockdown, we're going to be using the internet more.

It means it's going to be more risk to trolling and abuse. It means we're going to be taking out their kind of anxieties and frustrations on the internet.

It also means misinformation and fake news is going to be right for those that are already feeling so disenfranchising and powerless are going to be more perceptible to be groomed online and I just felt like no one was saying anything.

We prepared internally, we shit, we did all the right things, you know, we were stopping it offline workshops and all of that stuff.

I was meant to go to New York for a big international event, you know, had to cancel that like so we did all the right things, but we said we have to do more than our response needs to be more than just the internal.

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