And first and foremost, let's start with birthright citizenship, if you don't mind.

President Trump signs an executive order.

And I think it's lawful to do so, given that it's the executive branch.

And I'll make arguments after we end our conversation here.

But then it was struck down by a district judge in, district judge in, uh, Seattle, Washington.

Just give us your take on that real quickly.

Yeah, you know, I think President Trump part of this or keep in mind, we're what, four or five

days into his administration.

Um, got about, got about 1500, 1400 more to go.

I think he's trying to start the discussion, right?

He tried to do this in 2018 with birthright citizenship, didn't make it more than a few days.

I think this is really just the beginning, you know, one court shooting it down. I think it's

probably going to have to go all the up to the Supreme

Court. And so really, things have just gotten moving pretty quickly at this rate.

Tell us about your experience on the southern border because you made, I have forgotten

how many, Anna, but 60 trips down to the border, to the southern border.

Explain to people the amount of people that you were, that you saw coming into our country

illegally.

So it's fluctuated from 2018, but, you know, before President Biden took office in 2021,

what we historically would see in a year in the past decade, every month was about 30 to 50,000 people

apprehended at the southern border. So those are people who got caught.

Certainly 30 to 50,000 is

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