Hey and welcome to the short stuff. I'm Josh and Chuck's here too. Jerry's here too.

Dave's not. That's okay because Jerry's here covering for him and this is stuff you should know, short stuff.

That's right. And we're going to issue a trigger warning on this one. You see there in the title, the words latrine disaster disaster so i don't think we need to over explain

what's coming no if you're easily grossed out then be careful with this i when i was researching

and writing this one i noticed that my stomach was actually upset it's so was it really places yeah

and i i'm not easily i have a fairly ironed stomach it comes to stuff, and this one got me a little bit.

So, but let's start at the start.

We're going to go all the way back to 1184 C.E.

Nearly a thousand years ago.

And we're going to go to, is it thuringia?

I guess.

I'd never heard of that word, but that's probably right.

So it's a state that's still around in Germany, almost smack dab in the center of modern-day Germany.

And in Thuringia in 1184, there was a dispute. The reason for the dispute is lost to history.

But we know that it was between Ludwig III, who was Landgrave, aka Prince of Thuringia.

So he's a very powerful person in the region.

And the other guy, the other disputant, was Conrad of Vittelsbach, who was at the time the Archbishop of Mainz, who was also a very powerful person in the region.

That's right. And like you said, we don't know exactly why, and frankly, it doesn't matter as far as this story goes.

What matters is during this time, this is the high Middle Ages, there was the King of Germany. Einrich the, what is that, sixth?

He would eventually become the Holy Roman Emperor.

He knew this was coming.

So he was on a sort of campaign to lobby different rulers in various lands to say,

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