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Hey welcome to the Short Stuff. I'm Josh and there's Chuck and we're going to talk about

flower power, so let's start doing that right now.

Yeah, kind of specifically the two flower powers because there was one flower power movement in

1967 specifically in end of 68 that had to do with politics and protest and then there was a

second flower power movement kind of either concurrently or on the heels of that

that was a little bit more about like,

hey man, like wear this cool shirt and listen to this music, we're in San Francisco.

Yeah, that is a good point.

And one more from the other, I think the whole thing originally had its origin in 1965,

thanks to Alan Ginsburg, who would become one of the luminaries.

He was like Neil Cassidy, one of those rare beat generation guys

who was able to kind of make the transition over to Hippie. And so he became a

luminary of this this whole scene, the very beginning of like the hippie movement

in the 60s. And so by this time he was already a very respected counterculture person and so

when a bunch of Berkeley students decided that they were going to protest if he had any advice for him and boy did he ever

ever yeah he wrote a essay to give out to the protesters called

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