The simple Maxim is the punishment must fit the crime.

There's something very satisfying about seeing the way the juries come to a decision and in all my

12 or 13 years on the bench, I never saw a jury verdict that I thought was wrong. the We're back on this episode of Australian True Crime with the brilliant Dr. Zanthi Mallet,

our go-to criminologist and guest host. This time she's talking with a former judge of the

New South Wales Supreme Court and the current chair at the center of public integrity Anthony Weely, KC.

If you have a burning true crime question, please use the link in the show notes and we might just play your question in a future episode.

This is Australian True Crime, produced with respect on Warajiri country of the Kulin Nation. And a warning, this episode of the podcast

contains graphic descriptions of violence.

Let me tell you one thing my granddad doesn't know. I don't actually like fish paste

sandwiches. I just don't want to offend him when I pop over for lunch. Mmm, fishy bread. We've all got something

we haven't told our parents or grandparents, as sometimes it's just easier that way. But here's

something you really do need to let them know.

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by searching pension credit on Gov. UK.

Kelli Lane is one of Australia's most notorious child killers.

Despite more than two decades passing, what happened to her baby remains a mystery.

Kelly was convicted of murdering her two-day-old daughter, but there was nobody, no murder weapon, and no witnesses.

The case against her was entirely circumstantial.

Kelly Lane told dozens of lies to her family, friends, health workers and police officers to conceal multiple

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