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🗓️ 22 November 2024
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With the return of the bill on assisted dying next week we're unapologetically getting into the weeds of Parliamentary procedure for this episode, and looking at whether a Private Members Bill from a backbench MP is really the best way of passing such potentially important legislation. Two doyens of PMBs in UK policy circles; Dr Daniel Gover, Senior Lecturer in British Politics at Queen Mary University in London, and Dr Ruth Fox, director at the Hansard Society, help shine a light on a little understood, but sometimes hugely important, part of our legislative system, while Liberal Democrat MP Roz Savage, who has her own backbench bill, explains what it's like going through the process to host Alain Tolhurst. We also hear from two former Conservative MPs; Virginia Crosbie and Dean Russell, who together managed to get a long-awaited bill securing fairer tips for hospitality staff onto the statute book last year, about how they did it.
Presented by Alain Tolhurst, produced by Nick Hilton and edited by Ewan Cameron for Podot
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0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to The Rundown, a podcast from Politics Home with me Alan Tolhurst. |
0:09.4 | This week, we're unapologetically getting into the weeds of parliamentary procedure |
0:12.4 | and shining a light on little understood, but sometimes hugely important part of a legislative system. |
0:17.9 | As regular listeners will know, the citadine bill will return to the Commons later this month for MPs to vote on at second reading. But despite having massive |
0:24.8 | potential implications, the legislation underpinning the change is not being brought in by the |
0:28.7 | government, but by a backbencher, using the private members' bill mechanism. So, what is it? How |
0:34.6 | does it work? What is it uses and limitations? Why is it often a source of |
0:38.5 | controversy? We need to discuss that. I'm delighted to say I'm joined by the two |
0:42.1 | Doyens of PMBs in UK policy circles, Dr Daniel Gover, Senior Lecter in British Politics |
0:47.5 | at Queen Mary University, and Dr Ruth Fox, director at the Hansart Society, as well as an MP |
0:52.3 | who has our own private members bill going through the process, |
0:54.9 | Liberal Democrat MP, Ros Savage. And later in the episode, we'll hear from two former conservative MPs, |
1:00.1 | Virginia Crosby and Dean Russell, who together managed to get a long-awaited bill about tips of hospitality staff |
1:04.8 | onto the statute book about how they did it. But first, I'll start with you, Ruth. Can you just explain what a private member's bill is |
1:14.1 | and how they can be introduced by MPs and why? Yeah, so private members bill is a bill that is |
1:21.1 | brought in by a backbencher. It's not a government bill. And there's specific time set aside in the House of Commons, specifically 13 |
1:31.1 | sitting Fridays, about sort of 65 hours of time altogether through the course of each session |
1:37.4 | to consider them. And although the legislative stages for private members bills are called |
1:43.8 | exactly the same as those for government bills, |
1:46.2 | so the first reading, second reading, committee stage report and so on, in practical terms, |
1:52.5 | the rules for procedure for those stages are different. |
1:56.6 | And as a consequence, you have with private members bills this pressure of time for consideration of the bills and rules for debate that help single MPs or a small group of opponents to a bill to effectively try and talk out or filibuster it. |
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