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Test Match Special

Should England be playing against Afghanistan?

Test Match Special

BBC

Cricket, Sports News, News, Sports

4.42.2K Ratings

🗓️ 26 February 2025

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

Jonathan Agnew presents a special episode looking at the ongoing off-field controversy surrounding Afghanistan cricket.

We’ll hear from England captain Jos Buttler, Afghanistan coach Jonathan Trott and director of the MCC Foundation Sarah Fane.

We’ll also hear from the BBC’s Jo Currie, who’s made a documentary on Afghanistan’s women’s cricketers who have fled the country.

Make sure you’re subscribed to TMS wherever you listen to your podcasts - we’ll have regular episodes around the Champions Trophy.

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0:53.6

Now, this is a game that some have said shouldn't be taking place last month, 160 MPs,

1:01.4

signed a letter demanding that England boycott the match in protest at the Taliban regime's attack, particularly on female rights in the country.

1:08.9

Women's participation in sport has effectively been outlawed since the group returned to power in 2021. Women have been banned from universities and parks with the Taliban

1:12.8

raiding the homes of female athletes. Many women's cricketers fled Afghanistan for their

1:18.0

safety and we'll hear about one group of refugees playing in Melbourne shortly. The ECB has called

1:23.9

for the games governing body, the ICC, to take action. Chief Executive Richard Gould described the situation as gender apartheid.

1:31.3

However, they did say that any response should be unified.

1:34.3

The ICC requires its full members, of which Afghanistan is one, to have a national women's team, but no action has been taken.

1:42.3

We asked the ICC for an interview bee referred to by a statement by the ICC Chair Jay Shah last month,

1:47.8

he said,

1:48.6

we're committed to supporting cricket development

1:50.6

through the Afghanistan Cricket Board.

1:52.6

Our focus is on constructive dialogue and viable solutions

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