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Ready For Retirement

Should We Always Pull From our Brokerage Account First in Retirement? (Hint: No)

Ready For Retirement

James Conole, CFP®

Investment Planning, Bonds, Education, Stocks, Cash, Business, Dividend Investing, Retirement Planning, Retirement, Investing, Tax Planning

5706 Ratings

🗓️ 1 October 2024

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Patrick and Mary will soon both be retired. They are curious about what their withdrawal strategy should be as they balance various retirement accounts, including a pension, IRAs, and a brokerage account. They've been using tax gain harvesting to minimize taxes and plan to eliminate gains by 2024. A key question is whether to withdraw from their IRAs or brokerage account first, considering their state’s tax exclusion. James explains that by managing withdrawals and Roth conversions strategica...

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0:00.0

In today's episode, Ready for Retirement, we're going to take a look at Patrick and Mary's

0:03.2

retirement withdrawal strategy to see what they get right and what they might be able to improve.

0:09.5

This is another episode of Ready for Retirement. I'm your host, James Cannell, and I'm here

0:13.8

to teach you how to get the most of the life with your money. And now, on to the episode.

0:19.7

This episode is based upon a question that Patrick and Mary submitted, and the question

0:22.9

says this, Dear James, my wife and I find your podcast and videos extremely valuable, not only

0:27.8

for the education you provide on financial matters, but also for the non-financial

0:30.7

perspectives about retirement that many of us should keep in mind.

0:34.0

I am 58 and retired, and my wife is 57 and will be retiring next year.

0:38.5

Upon her retirement, we will have a $58,500 pension free of state income tax.

0:43.9

She has $102,000 in a 403B.

0:46.3

I have $430,000 in an IRA.

0:49.1

We have $200,000 in a brokerage account, and we have combined $510,000 in Roth accounts. We do own our home outright,

0:56.0

but have no near-term plans to tap any of the $350,000 of equity in it. We both will be eligible

1:01.4

for social security benefits but have not made any determination as to what age we might take

1:05.4

those benefits. Our combined social security at age 62 would be $,600, or if we wait until age 70,

1:12.1

that amount would be $72,420. Given that our taxable income has been comfortably within the

1:18.0

0% long-term gains capital gains bracket, we have spent the last few years harvesting gains

1:23.3

in our brokerage account and will have eliminated all gains by the end of 2024.

1:32.0

The brokerage account holds approximately $70,000 in money market fund with the remainder in tax-efficient stock index funds, so further dividend income should not be substantial.

1:37.3

I realize that brokerage account with rolls would be the most tax-efficient source of income.

1:41.3

However, my state also allows for $20,000 per person exclusion of income

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