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How to Save a Planet

Should We Mine the Deep-Sea?

How to Save a Planet

Gimlet

Science, News, Society & Culture

4.81.6K Ratings

🗓️ 6 October 2022

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

In the coming years, we'll need millions of batteries: batteries to store renewable electricity and power a massive fleet of electric vehicles. But those batteries will require certain metals, and those metals have to be mined. And the mining industry can be a mess, sometimes associated with deforestation, child labor, and deadly floods of toxic waste. Is there a better way? Today we journey to the bottom of the ocean to find out. Along the way, we discover a massive government conspiracy and meet an adorable octopus. Calls to Action: Keep up to date on deep-sea mining news with the Deep-Sea Mining Observer. Learn more about calls for a moratorium on deep-sea mining with the Deep-Sea Mining Science Statement. Check out the Ocean Forum's Ocean Justice Platform (shout-out to our former co-host, Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson!) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to Odyssey of a Planet, I'm Alex Bloomberg, and this is the show where we talk about

0:08.2

what we need to do to address climate change and how to make those things happen.

0:15.9

Hello, everyone.

0:25.7

Today on the show, we're going to be talking about what is in some ways a giant global treasure

0:31.4

hunt.

0:32.4

Treasure hunt that could play a big role in getting us to a zero carbon world, but that

0:36.5

could also come at a steep price.

0:39.0

And here to tell us about this high stakes treasure hunt is how to save a planet producer

0:43.4

Daniel Ackerman.

0:44.4

Hey, Dan.

0:45.4

Hey, Alex.

0:46.4

So first things first, have you seen this treasure?

0:49.6

I just want to note up top that treasure is your word.

0:52.1

Alex, not mine.

0:53.2

Oh, I'm sorry, Mr. Fancy Pan science journalist.

0:56.6

You don't want to buy into my table metaphor, but seriously, have you seen it?

1:01.6

Yes, I have seen it at least on Zoom.

1:04.7

So I was interviewing a scientist named Dr. Andrew Failer, and I asked him to describe

1:10.1

a piece of this treasure for me.

1:11.8

Hold on a second.

1:12.8

So don't tell me you have one.

1:15.8

Andrew walked off screen for a second, and when he reappeared, he was holding what looked

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