Show Me The Money! DOGE Dividend Revolutionizing Accountability

The Dr. Phil Podcast

Dr. Phil McGraw

Mental Health, Self-improvement, Society & Culture, Education, Health & Fitness

4.4 • 13.2K Ratings

🗓️ 19 March 2025

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

Where’s my $5,000 check?! Dr. Phil McGraw and James Fishback, CEO of Azoria and Founder of Incubate Debate, reveal how the DOGE Dividend is revolutionizing accountability and why debate skills could save democracy—this is the future of civic power!

Dr. Phil and James reveal how a dream inspired the creation of "The Case for a DOGE Dividend"—a visionary proposal even considered by President Trump and Elon Musk. They unpack the latest developments surrounding the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) and explore the implications of the initiative, which goes beyond financial reform to ignite a cultural shift toward accountability and active citizenship. Fishback shares his mission to empower Americans to reclaim their role in governance. Dr. Phil offers a compelling take on fostering open dialogue and critical thinking in today’s divided world.

Through the lens of “Incubate Debate" founded by Fishback in 2019, the episode highlights the importance of equipping future generations with the skills to engage in meaningful discourse. Together, these efforts paint a compelling picture of a participatory democracy where citizens are not just informed but actively involved in shaping their communities.
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0:00.0	Paying down debt is not paying down a four-wheeler or going out and buying a new flat screen TV.
0:05.3	It is shoring up your family's finances after four difficult years.
0:09.3	And that's exactly what I trust Americans will do.
0:11.9	And I trust them to be better stewards of that 20% than Washington.
0:26.8	Okay. Welcome back to the Dr. Phil podcast.
0:32.6	We are diving into the world of finance, innovation, and doge with James Fishback.
0:37.5	As the founder and CEO of Azoria Partners and American investment firm, Fishback has made waves in the industry to say the least.
0:42.1	He's also the founder and president of Incubate, debate,
0:46.7	a nonprofit empowering young Americans with the art of debate.
0:52.6	I can't tell you how excited I am to talk about that, because we have so many people
1:01.0	living in a bubble right now, echo chambers, not listening, not debating, not sharing ideas.
1:07.2	So I'm anxious to talk about that.
1:10.0	Guided by principles of free speech, open discourse,
1:13.1	and merit. Incubate has become the fastest growing debate league in the nation, offering an
1:18.3	alternative to the ideological echo chambers of traditional high school debate. James is also the
1:25.5	visionary behind the Doge dividend proposal, a bold idea aimed at
1:31.4	reshaping how government savings benefit taxpayers. And I got a million questions about that.
1:37.9	He stated on X, American taxpayers deserve a Doge dividend. 20% of the money that Doge save should be sent back to hardworking
1:48.0	Americans as a tax refund check. He says it was their money in the first place, and he has a lot more
1:55.2	to say on that. So James, thanks for joining me today. My pleasure, Dr. Phil. Thank you for having me.
2:00.5	Well, you've been pretty busy.
2:01.9	You got a lot going on.
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