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The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

Sir Roger Scruton

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

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Education, Science, Society & Culture

4.634.5K Ratings

🗓️ 12 March 2019

⏱️ 93 minutes

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A conversation between Dr. Jordan Peterson and Sir Roger Scruton, moderated by Dr. Stephen Blackwood, introduced by Professor Douglas Hedley, presented by The Cambridge Centre for the Study of Platonism and Ralston College, held on Nov 2, 2018 in Cambridge, England. God willing (so to speak) I will be staying in Cambridge in October and November talking with the faculty at the Divinity School there about the book of Exodus prior to releasing a new series of videos about that biblical saga.

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Jordan B. Peterson Podcast. To support this podcast, you can make a donation

0:07.8

at JordanB.com slash donate, or by following the link in the description.

0:14.5

Dr. Peterson's self-development programs, self-authoring, and understand myself can be

0:20.5

found at selfauthoring.com and understand myself.com.

0:50.5

Well, on behalf of Roaston College and the Cambridge University, I would like to thank

1:20.5

you for the study of Platonism. It's an immense honor to introduce two of the foremost intellectuals

1:28.2

of our age. These thinkers, Warner philosopher, the other as psychologists, are spiritual writers

1:37.1

addressing the malaise of the soul in our culture. John Stuart Mill, in his magnificent essay

1:46.2

on Colourage, wrote of Bentham, Jeremy Bentham, who above all others, men have been led to

1:53.9

ask themselves in regard to any ancient or received opinion, is it true? And by Colourage,

2:03.3

what is the meaning? With Colourage, in contrast to the utility of Bentham, the very fact

2:10.2

that any doctrine had been believed by thoughtful men and received by whole nations and

2:16.0

generations of mankind was part of the problem to be solved, was one of the phenomena to

2:22.4

be accounted for. This, I think, is true of both Roger Scruton and Jordan Peterson.

2:29.8

And I'd like to mention just a couple of points of convergence. Warner's an insistence

2:34.8

on the importance of imagination as conversion to truth in opposition to a mere fantasy.

2:47.3

And an opposition to ideology, as well as ideology, especially the idolatrous ideology

2:59.4

of the post-modern, for-call-derived consensus, and an urgent return to questions about truth,

3:09.4

beauty and goodness. And of course, part of this is linked to what both perceive as the

3:15.6

perilous position of the modern university. They both argue that continuity of esteem

3:23.7

needs to be regained in the humanities, and that the dominant strands of the humanities

3:33.0

are leading to an impoverishment of the souls of students. Narratives, both argue, are not

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