Small boats and the silver exodus

Chopper's Politics

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Brexit, Political, News, Uk, Coronavirus, Politics, Parliament

4.2 • 864 Ratings

🗓️ 16 December 2022

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Sir Robert Buckland KC and Jonathan Gullis bring their views on how to tackle the migrant crisis to the Red Lion this week.

Robert Buckland calls talk of withdrawing from the European Convention of Human Rights "a red herring" fuelled by the fact the word Europe is "catnip" for some of his Conservative colleagues.

Then Jonathan Gullis talks about his failed Bill to force Rishi Sunak to ignore rulings from Strasbourg over the deportation of asylum seekers to Rwanda, and why he was just trying to give the Prime Minister some "space", honest.

Also on the podcast, Shadow Secretary of State for Work and Pensions Jonathan Ashworth on how Labour would encourage over 50s to get back to work.

Plus a surprise festive ditty from one of our guests to get us into the Christmas spirit.

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0:00.0	Coming up on shoppers politics.
0:04.0	Do we want to follow Russia out of the door of an institution that we helped create?
0:08.0	It's bonkers, it's unconservitive, complete red herring that people need to stop even racing.
0:14.6	It's a nonsense.
0:15.4	It is being talked about by your colleagues and on the back bench.
0:17.6	Well, they're wrong.
0:18.8	They're wrong.
0:26.2	Hello, I'm Christopher Hope, the's Associate Editor for Politics and this is your weekly edition of Choppers Politics Podcast.
0:29.5	It's Christmas and I'm sitting here in the Red Line Pub surrounded by decorations as festive celebrations get
0:34.7	properly underway here in Westminster.
0:36.8	And with that in mind I've got a short festive interlude for you at the end of the podcast.
0:42.0	Do tune in. I hope you enjoy it and do let me know what you think.
0:45.0	Right, it's been a week when the migrant crisis has been front and center of the conversation in Westminster. Just after Prime Minister Ritchie Sunak finally
0:56.2	got his act together to announce a plan to crack down on illegal migration, at least four people
1:01.9	died in the channel trying to cross to the UK in freezing waters.
1:06.4	The strategy to one up this week is very much Rishi Sunak's plan,
1:10.6	but does it go far enough?
1:12.3	Not all Tory MPs think so. Jonathan Gullis, a Redwall
1:17.0	Tory MP, elected in 2019, led a rebellion this week calling for a Richardson Act to ignore the European Court of Human Rights
1:25.6	and start putting legal migrants on planes to Rwanda. More from him later. But first other Tories think the answer is to improve the processes.
1:38.0	With me now is Robert Buckland, the former Justice Secretary.
1:42.0	Robert, welcome to Java's politics.
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