Hey, everybody today. My guest is Joel Saladin, who is part of the family that owns

Polyphase farms in Virginia, the Shannon Doa Valley. The farm highlighted in the New York Times

bestseller Omnivore's Dilemma and the award-winning documentary Food Inc. The farm uses no chemicals

and raises pasture livestock, including beef, pork, poultry, Inc. The farm uses no chemicals and raises pasture livestock, including beef, pork,

poultry, turkey, lamb, and rabbit, which is directly marketed in the region and ship nationwide.

He is the author of 16 books. Joel Saladin is a sought-after conference speaker on divergent

agricultural business and food integrity topics. He is the editor of the Stockman Grass Farmer,

and he writes columns and numerous publications. Welcome to the show.

I'm really, really happy to talk to you.

Thank you.

It's really an honor and privilege to be with you, always.

So tell us a little bit about your farm and where that sits and kind of, you know,

the national grid of organic agriculture.

Yeah.

So we're in Virginia, Shenandoah Valley.

Our family came here in 1961.

And mom and dad never made a living from the farm.

Like so, you know, they worked off farm to,

dad was an accountant mom was a

school teacher and that that paid the mortgage so by the time i'm getting into a teenage years

uh i loved the farm i got my first chickens when i was 10 years old had a little laying laying chicken

business and um but dad was very innovative. And, and, and, and, you know, I'm at the

...