So I'm out rock climbing, but I really wanted to do the intro for Roger Reeves.

This guy is amazing. First off, he was the largest drug smuggler ever. He worked for Pablo Escobar and many others.

This is all through the 70s, 80s, maybe the

90s. And he has a lot to say about the drug business, all the crazy stuff that happened to him,

including 33 years in jail, and the role of the U.S. government in the drug smuggling.

He also talks about Barry Seale. You might have seen the

movie American Maid starring Tom Cruise. There's this amazing scene in American Made where

Tom Cruise is arrested and the prosecutor says, you're going to jail for life. And Tom Cruise says,

no, I'm not. Here's what's going to happen. You're about to get a phone

call. You're going to argue a little bit with the guy on the other side of the phone and then

you're going to let me go. And then that's what happened. And it was a true story. Anyway, Barry

Seale, the movie's about this guy, Barry Seale, he was an employee of Roger Reeves,

who I'm about to talk to on the podcast. So crazy stories, Roger Reeves, who I'm about to talk to on the podcast.

So crazy stories, Roger Reeves, author of the book Smuggler, check it out.

Here it is.

This isn't your average business podcast, and he's not your average host.

This is the James Altasher show.

First off, a lot of people tell stories about you. If you could change the record or correct the record, what is one

story people say about you that is just definitely not true? I don't know. I'm probably guilty

on all charges. Nobody says anything much is not true about me, I don't think. Now, you know,

obviously you were, you were into planes and aviation and you wanted your life

to be interesting and you wanted to make money. All these things together resulted in, let's call it,

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