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Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan

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Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan

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True Crime

4.81.8K Ratings

🗓️ 27 December 2022

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

In April of 2019, police are investigating the death of a man named Phillip Pointer, who’s believed to have died of natural causes. When searching his property to confirm this, they stumble across a bucket, inside which they find a severed human foot. Little did they know that this foot would contain answers to a case police had been investigating for three years.

In this episode of Body Bags, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan and Jackie Howard discuss the difficulties of tracking body parts found in different locations, identifying a body, phenotyping, and more.

Show Notes:

0:00 - Intro

1:25 - Background and overview of the case

2:48 - What the police found at the scene

5:00 - What do investigators do to determine if there are any more remains on the property?

8:50 - Figuring out who the foot belongs to

10:50 - Is there a database that tracks body parts and when they are found?

12:55 - Connecting the dots

17:00 - What was the purpose behind the crime?

18:25 - Cause of death and how it was determined

22:45 - Identifying the body parts

26:50 - Identifying tattoos

29:20 - Different types of identification

32:38 - Phenotyping

35:50 - Identifying the victim

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Transcript

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0:00.0

I don't clean up my house necessarily the way I probably should, particularly on the yard.

0:25.2

I've got an old shed and tools and whatnot playing around.

0:29.6

I don't keep them in the best order probably by some people's standards, and I've often wondered if I suddenly passed away what would happen to everything I own.

0:41.4

What kind of impression would that leave with the folks that have to come up and clean up after me?

0:49.5

I know it's kind of morbid, but it happens. It happens on a regular basis.

0:54.6

But I want to tell you about a case where the gentleman passed away, naturally, in the police when they were at his house, found something that I think that they'll never, ever forget.

1:14.8

I'm Joseph Scott Morgan, and this is Body Bags.

1:23.8

Jackie Howard, executive producer of Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, is with me.

1:28.9

Jackie, I got to tell you, I don't know about you. I'm sure your house is in great order.

1:33.6

Maybe you've got a tool shed, but for me, I got to tell you, it really does bother me.

1:38.6

I think about, I guess it's because I've been out to so many death scenes.

1:42.4

I think there, but for the grace of God, go, I kind of look around it.

1:46.2

Man, when you die, it's just, it's the way it is. If you didn't clean up before you die, it's just going to stay that way.

1:54.2

I guess it leaves an impression on the people that come out and find you and the people that have to clean up after you.

1:59.6

Absolutely. And in this case, as in many others we've talked about, it did.

2:05.3

I've told you before, Joe, if I run across something and I don't know what it is, I'm not opening it.

2:11.3

And this is another one of those cases. This gentleman died of natural causes.

2:16.6

Yet, as with any death, the police came out, they're looking around to make sure that it is indeed natural causes.

2:23.0

And they find in a bucket a severed foot.

2:28.7

I can only imagine the condition of this foot. We don't know how long it's been there.

2:32.9

We don't know where it came from. We don't know how it was stored.

2:36.1

All we know is that it was in a bucket. What did the police find?

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