Welcome Space Policy Wonks. This is the Space Policy Edition of Planetary Radio, your monthly review.

I'm deep dive into all that is happening with the stuff that really determines what we're going to be doing in space exploration.

I'm Matt Kaplan, the host of planetary radio, joined by, as always, the director of space policy

for the planetary society, Casey Dreyer, welcome Casey.

Hey, Matt, hey Jason, happy to be back and doing a full episode here.

You bet, and Jason Callahan already mentioned there by Casey, Jason Callahan in the Beltway is our space policy advisor

within the Planetary Society,

part of our extremely effective space policy staff,

which we'll be talking about for a few moments in

in just a moment or two here. Welcome back to you as well Jason. Hey guys how you

doing? Good to be back. Before we go on just a little bit of a tease for a terrific conversation

extremely informative conversation the case he had with somebody on the inside of

NASA it's with Lori Garver, the former deputy administrator under Charlie

Bolden, the just passed NASA administrator, the last one to actually be approved by Congress.

Lori, who has been a space policy expert, insider and space exploration fan and promoter

for many, many years.

You won't want to miss this.

So let us make you proud if you are a member of the Planetary Society

as we talk about the NASA budget and what appears to be a clear reflection of the

influence of these two guys and the other member of the space policy staff

Matt Renninger and of course some of the rest of the people there.

There's a guy named Bill Nye, who's also taken part in some of the activities these guys have

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