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Planetary Radio: Space Exploration, Astronomy and Science

Space Policy Edition: NASA at a Crossroads

Planetary Radio: Space Exploration, Astronomy and Science

The Planetary Society

Technology, Science

4.81.4K Ratings

🗓️ 1 November 2024

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Norm Augustine, the distinguished aerospace industry veteran behind numerous influential studies, joins the show to discuss NASA at a Crossroads, the new report that raises alarm bells for NASA’s workforce, infrastructure, and technology capabilities.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the space policy edition of Planetary Radio, the monthly show,

0:26.5

where we explore the politics and processes behind the space exploration.

0:31.6

I'm Casey Dreyer, the chief of space policy here at the Planetary Society.

0:47.4

In 2022, buried within the tens of thousands of lines of legislative text that comprise the Chips and Science Act was a request from Congress that the National Academies of Sciences and Engineering and Medicine

0:56.2

establish an independent committee tasked with evaluating the state of NASA's core capabilities,

1:04.5

its workforce, its infrastructure, and its ability to develop technology.

1:13.7

The committee that ultimately came to be encompassed a broad swath of expertise in the space community, including space scientists,

1:21.1

engineers, senior managers, space policy experts, and even veterans of the commercial

1:25.9

space industry, including some from

1:27.7

SpaceX. This committee of 13 people spent nearly two years visiting NASA facilities

1:36.0

throughout the country, interviewed hundreds of staff and contractors, including NASA's

1:43.3

most senior leadership.

1:46.2

What they found was disturbing, the essence of which is captured in the title of the report

1:54.5

that came out of their evaluation, NASA at a crossroads.

2:00.4

This report, which I think is one of the most important reports to come out from the National

2:06.5

Academies in recent years, made seven core findings about what they saw, and then eight

2:12.5

major recommendations for how the space agency and Congress and all of its supporters can help fix it.

2:19.9

The key, though, I think, is this.

2:23.5

The report committee found that for decades, NASA has underinvested in itself.

2:31.6

It has underinvested in maintaining its infrastructure, which is unique. It has

2:36.6

underinvested in its workforce, which is under incredible competition, not just from commercial

2:41.6

space companies, but from the growing tech industry that wants to siphon off some of NASA's

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