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How to Save a Planet

Spark Tank! How Do We Solve the Energy Storage Problem?

How to Save a Planet

Gimlet

Science, News, Society & Culture

4.81.6K Ratings

🗓️ 30 June 2022

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Storage! ...Exciting, right? Ok, we’ll prove it to you. Each day, more and more of our electricity comes from intermittent renewables like wind and solar. To balance out our electric grid in the future, we’ll need new ways of storing extra energy, so we can still turn on our lights when the wind isn’t blowing and the sun isn’t shining. This week, with help from Dr. Leah Stokes and Shayle Kann, we explore the wild world of energy storage, from a hidden underground lair to a piping hot thermos full of poison. And did we mention it’s a gameshow? Guests Dr. Leah Stokes, Professor of Climate and Energy Policy at University of California, Santa Barbara Shayle Kann, Climate Tech Investor at Energy Impact Partners Len Greene, Director of Government Affairs and Communications, FirstLight Power Curtis VanWalleghem, CEO of Hydrostor Dr. Cristina Prieto, Professor of Engineering at the University of Seville Calls to Action Learn more about energy storage Pumped Hydro Compressed Air Molten Salts And for a really wild one: check out Energy Vault Learn more about our electric grid, with our episodes How We Got our Grid and How We Get a Better One and Party Like It’s 2035 We still want to see your climate Venn diagrams! For inspiration, check out ClimateVenn.info. Post your diagram to Instagram and tag us at @how2saveaplanet. We’ll be reposting examples listeners share with us! Check out our Calls to Action archive for all of the actions we've recommended on the show. Send us your ideas or feedback with our Listener Mail Form. Sign up for our newsletter here. And follow us on Twitter and Instagram. This episode of How to Save a Planet was produced by Daniel Ackerman. The rest of our reporting and producing team includes Kendra Pierre-Louis, Rachel Waldholz and Anna Ladd. Our supervising producer is Matthew Shilts. Our editor is Caitlin Kenney. Our intern is Janae Morris. Sound design and mixing by Peter Leonard with original music from Emma Munger. Our fact checker for this episode was James Gaines. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to how to save a planet, I'm Alex Bloomberg, and this is the show where we talk

0:06.6

about what we need to do to address climate change and how to make those things happen.

0:15.9

Hello, everyone.

0:25.0

Today I am joined by how to save a planet producer, Daniel Ackerman.

0:28.0

Hello, Dan.

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And you're here because we have to take a visit to the future.

0:36.0

All right, here we are through the magic of podcasting.

0:42.0

We are now a decade or two in the future.

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And Dan, we explain to listeners what the future looks like.

0:47.0

First of all, there are just wind turbines everywhere.

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As far as the eye can see, out in the ocean, on shore, it's beautiful.

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There's solar panels out in the fields.

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Solar panels don't make a sound.

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And most of our electricity is coming from wind and solar.

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It's wonderful.

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It's a beautiful future.

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It's clean here.

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It's quiet.

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There's way less pollution.

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Fewer people have asthma.

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Oh, there's a flock of sheep over there grazing in the gentle shade of a solar panel.

1:17.0

But Alex, there's a big obstacle standing between us and this glorious renewable future.

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