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🗓️ 14 April 2025
⏱️ 65 minutes
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Stablecoins are no longer a niche crypto curiosity—they're a full-blown financial revolution.
In this episode, Rob Hadick, General Partner at Dragonfly, joins us to unpack the emerging stablecoin tech stack and why cross-border payments, savings, and financial infrastructure are being rebuilt from the ground up.
From Circle and Tether to next-gen orchestration layers and stablecoin-native blockchains, we explore why this $200 trillion global opportunity is only 5% unlocked—and who stands to win the most.
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Intro
5:08 Why Stablecoins?
6:50 The Stablecoin Train
20:26 Stablecoin Network Effects
22:55 Stablecoin Payments: Who Actually Wins?
26:51 Orchestration Layers
41:53 Stablecoin Blockchains
52:53 Stablecoin Singularity
56:03 Traditional Banks
59:38 Non-USD Stablecoins
1:02:05 How Many Stablecoins?
1:05:03 Circle IPO
1:09:32 Closing & Disclaimers
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RESOURCES
Rob Hadick
Stablecoin Payments: Who Actually Wins?
https://medium.com/@HadickM/stablecoin-payments-who-actually-wins-ebd72a1cc8b3
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0:00.0 | All I would say is if stable coins are inevitability at this point, |
0:05.0 | and if you are building in fintech and or at a payment company, |
0:10.0 | and you aren't actively figuring out how do I future-proof this business for stablecoins, |
0:15.0 | you're going to lose. |
0:26.6 | Welcome to Bankless, where we explore the frontier of internet money and internet finance. And today on Banklist, we are exploring the frontier of stablecoins. |
0:29.6 | The stablecoin conversation in crypto goes all the way back. |
0:32.6 | You can find discussions of stablecoin concepts as far back as the Bitcoin talk forums, which was the original |
0:38.4 | venue for all of crypto's great ideas. In 2025, the conversation continues. Stable coins have been, |
0:44.5 | and seemingly always will be, an incredibly important part of the crypto revolution. Things are a |
0:49.4 | little different now, however, in 2025. Things are no longer conceptual. The emergence of stable |
0:54.0 | coins like USEC and |
0:55.5 | Tether have grown into a $200 billion market cap asset class, and the performance of blockchains |
1:00.3 | have risen to match the needs of internet-based stablecoin settlement networks. Because of these |
1:04.7 | unlocks on the crypto tech tree, we are now finally seeing startups weave together the old siloed |
1:09.8 | financial system into new internet public |
1:12.0 | blockchains. And it's because of the utility value of stablecoins that so much progress |
1:16.3 | has been made over just the last year. Rob Haddock, the guest on the show today, says that |
1:20.5 | he is seeing 30% month-over-month growth of cross-border stablecoin volumes. All of this, combined with a regulatory clarity and |
1:29.1 | stablecoin bills that are passing through the United States Congress, are creating a gold |
1:32.8 | rush in the stable coin economy. Everyone is trying to get a piece of the incredible amount of |
1:37.4 | value that is going to be produced by the invention of stablecoins. It's also interesting to note |
1:42.3 | that during the times of Donald Trump's isolationism |
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