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Woman's Hour

Stacey Dooley, Lily Gladstone, Ask for Angela, Motherhood

Woman's Hour

BBC

Society & Culture, Health & Fitness, Personal Journals

4.22.9K Ratings

🗓️ 28 March 2025

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

In the documentary Growing up Gypsy Stacey Dooley gets to know three young English Romany Gypsy women. Invited into the traditionally private community, Stacey discovers the complex balancing act the young women face growing up in one of Britain’s most maligned ethnic minorities. She meets 23 year old Chantelle who prides herself in keeping with the ‘old’ Gypsy values her granny Rita taught her and shares her ‘Gypsy Cleaning’ videos on social media where she has nearly 400,000 followers on TikTok and 15 million likes on her page. Chantelle joins Kylie Pentelow to talk about her life, alongside Stacey Dooley.

If you've been in a pub you might have seen the posters which tells you to Ask for Angela at the bar if you feel unsafe. In response to hearing the word "Angela", trained staff should offer to help you leave the property safely. The national scheme was set up in 2016 to help anyone who is feeling vulnerable on a night out to get the support they need. It was named after Angela Crompton, who was killed by her husband in 2012. Her name becoming the codeword. However, recent BBC secret filming revealed that more than half of venues visited failed to respond correctly, with many staff members completely unaware of what to do. Angela's daughter Hollie explains why she is calling for government action to ensure it is implemented properly.

The Oscar-nominated actor Lily Gladstone is the first Native American woman to be nominated for a Best Actress Academy Award – and the first indigenous woman to win a Best Actress Golden Globe, both for her role as Mollie Burkhart in Killers of the Flower Moon. Now she's starring in the romantic comedy The Wedding Banquet. Lily explains her character's journey through IVF, how she chooses roles and the responsibility she feels in representing her community.

In the 1970s, British sociologist, Professor Ann Oakley, led a ground-breaking project called Becoming a Mother. She spoke to over 50 first-time mothers before and after they gave birth. What she found reshaped how we think about motherhood and started a sea-change in practice and policy around maternity care. Now a new project takes that legacy forward. It’s called 50 Years of Becoming a Mother and is led by Professor Ann Oakley and Dr Charlotte Faircloth at the UCL Social Research Institute. They will revisit the original mothers, and study 55 new mothers, to understand how women’s experiences of motherhood have changed over the last 5 decades.

Presenter: Kylie Pentelow Producer: Kirsty Starkey Editor: Karen Dalziel

Transcript

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0:00.0

No, you keep that private.

0:04.1

Find out what made Lily Allen and Mickey to Oliver say this.

0:08.0

It's just so next level what we're talking about.

0:10.9

But you know what I mean?

0:12.4

And this.

0:13.3

I think we should put our phones down and go to the park

0:15.9

and try and remember what was good about the world

0:18.3

and let's try and get back to there.

0:20.2

Sounds good. Join them as they's try and get back to there. Sounds good.

0:21.3

Join them as they talk about pretty much everything.

0:24.8

Yes, we do go to all sorts of places, happy, sad and everything in between.

0:29.7

Miss me with Lily Allen and Makita Oliver.

0:32.8

Listen on BBC Sounds.

0:35.2

Hello, this is Kylie Pentalo and you're listening to The Woman's Hour podcast.

0:39.8

Hello and welcome to the programme.

0:41.8

Thank you very much for your company.

0:43.4

We have plenty coming up today, including you may know her from her straight talking documentaries

0:49.4

exploring topics like poverty and human rights.

0:52.9

And now Stacey Dooley is back and this time she's

0:55.8

been invited into one of Britain's most malign ethnic minorities, the traveller community.

1:01.8

Stacey's coming into the studio with one of the women she met Chantelle, who has become

1:06.4

somewhat of a social media star by posting videos of her cleaning regime. Also coming up, back in the

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