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🗓️ 28 January 2024
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"I remember my dad, he sent me an apologetic video -- initially I was like 'dad I don't want to listen to this pseudo scholarship, this mental gymnastics the church isn't what it claims to be, come on give it a rest.' He was like just watch it. I sort of recognized that I'm not being very open-minded, I'm not willing to listen. I'd already come to a firm conclusion so I was like fine I'll watch it. It was by a guy called Bruce Porter and it was about the connections and correspondences and parallels between our temple endowment and ancient Egyptian temple rituals. If I'm being intellectually honest and consistent, just as I couldn't deny that there are things which are similar - if not identical, between a Masonic ritual and the temple endowment, there were things which correspond quite well. So I was like, 'okay, I can understand why a true believer they might think that the temple endowment is like a restoration of an ancient temple ritual.' So that sort of sparked some curiosity and I started to explore more evidence for things like this."
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0:00.0 | This is Ashley Stone and you're listening to the Comeback Podcast. |
0:07.0 | Stephen. Stephen, I am so excited to have you on the podcast. I know you have your own, your own channel. Tell me a little bit about your channel. Do you do a podcast and YouTube or just just YouTube? |
0:25.4 | It's mostly YouTube. I was uploading a lot of them on the like podcast platforms as well |
0:30.8 | but I've gone on a bit behind. Most of my attention's been on YouTube. |
0:34.4 | But yeah, it's called Mormonism with the Murph. |
0:36.2 | I created it back in July 2022. |
0:39.2 | So it's been just over a year and a half and the purpose of the channel is to try to dive into controversial church history topics or like at things do with the church's truth claim so I've explored topics with Church History or like the Book of Mormon. |
0:55.2 | I want to try to be balanced and as fair and as objective as I can be while acknowledging that I'm biased, I'm a believer and we all interpret things differently. |
1:05.0 | But I really want to explore and to represent Steelman |
1:09.9 | the critics' position and their criticisms, their arguments, last look at their |
1:13.9 | evidence and then look at the faithful apologetic responses for some of the |
1:18.4 | evidence in favor and I also would interview different scholars or historians on a topic and I try to ask the hard questions. |
1:28.6 | So that's kind of what my channel is about. |
1:30.4 | I've also interviewed a few people about their faith journeys, but for the most part I'm focused on church |
1:35.9 | claims and church history. |
1:37.1 | So how did you get into this? What sparked such a passion for you getting into this? |
1:47.0 | Well, I would say probably my own beeth journey, my own beth crisis is probably what caused me to be interested in things to do with church history and criticisms and apologetics and we'll probably get into this with my story but leaving the church sort of losing my fear and then having experiences that brought me back and then sort of like trying to navigate like reconstruct okay now that I believe again |
2:09.8 | how do I make sense of some of these criticisms or attacks as the Church's truth claims and really just trying to dive in and front and figure out some sort of alignment between spiritual and intellectual. So it's not that much of a |
2:26.2 | devotional sort of channel. It's more sort of a scholarly sort of channel research. If you're into it, then you'll enjoy it. |
2:35.4 | I really enjoy Don Bradley and I know a lot of our listeners do too and I think that he does such a great job of taking hard questions and well I mean and he had his own faith journey of course but the way that he I'm hoping to do an interview with John, |
2:54.1 | or with Don, sorry, because I, |
2:56.0 | he's a great historian and I feel like there's some connections |
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