I'm Alan Olver and this is Clear In Vivid, Conversations About Connecting and Communicating.

The idea is that we get our sense of understanding from the people around us, right?

Understanding is like a virus which we can catch.

So we might have a sense of understanding because the people around us have a sense of understanding.

But they might only have a sense of understanding because the people around them think they

have an understanding.

And those people might have a sense of understanding only because the people around you see where

this is going, right?

You can have an entire community that has a sense of understanding even though nobody

actually understands.

That Steve Sloeman who along with his colleague Phil Fernbach has written a book called

The Knowledge Illusion, Why We Never Think Alone.

It's a book that certainly made me think.

Well this should be interesting because I found your book fascinating, The Knowledge Illusion.

And what should be interesting about our conversation is that a couple hours ago, I said

to my wife, Arlene, I'm going to talk with these two interesting guys.

And it should be fascinating because the subject is so interesting.

She said, What is it?

And I thought I understood it well enough to explain it.

Oh, I love that.

So that sort of is your book right there.

So why don't you both have a go to helping me understand what the Knowledge Illusion really

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