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welcome to amped up this is your host Ryan Knight and our guest today is Stephen Donziger.

Stephen is an advocate, a writer, and the environmental lawyer who helped win the historic

9.5 billion dollar judgment

against Chevron.

Stephen, welcome to Amptup.

Thanks so much for having me.

So look, when I first heard about your story,

it really reminded me that we're living

in the upside down world.

But just to bring everyone up to speed who hasn't heard about your story,

back in 2013, you helped win a landmark 9.5 billion dollar judgment against Chevron on behalf of 30,000

indigenous people from the Ecuadorian Amazon whose homes and health were

devastated by decades of oil drilling and by Chevron whose homes and health were devastated

by decades of oil drilling and by Chevron dumping

70 billion leaders of oil and toxic waste

into the Amazon.

This was the largest human rights and environmental court judgment in history.

But instead of complying with the judgment, cleaning up the Amazon,

and paying for the damages it caused, Chevron has spent the past decade

...