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🗓️ 12 March 2025
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0:00.0 | Jeff, welcome to the podcast, brother. It's an honor to have you here. And I'm excited about everything |
0:05.1 | that you're working on, in particular, you got a new book coming up. And inside of that book, |
0:09.4 | good stress, a big thing that you talk about is that there are positive bits of stress that can |
0:16.3 | radically make our life better. You know, for thousands, hundreds of thousands of years, we as humans have |
0:23.0 | been focused on getting as much stress out. You're here to convince us that maybe the extreme |
0:29.8 | version of that, taking all stress out of our life, is actually a detriment to our health. Let's talk |
0:35.8 | about that. Yeah, absolutely. Well, first of all, |
0:37.6 | Drew, thanks for having me. You are just such a great friend and you platform so many amazing |
0:42.4 | people and I'm very grateful to be here. So, yeah, listen, for hundreds of thousands of years, |
0:48.8 | homo sapiens and even beyond that for millions of years, hominids have evolved in relationship to their |
0:55.8 | environment. |
0:56.9 | You know, to be alive is to be in relationship. |
0:59.7 | And so we've evolved these adaptive mechanisms in relation to what I sometimes call |
1:05.7 | paleolithic stress. |
1:08.3 | But since the Industrial Revolution, in the West, primarily, but really accelerating in the last |
1:15.0 | 70 years, at every turn, we've engineered our society for comfort, for convenience, for ease. |
1:25.0 | And it's my thesis that chronic ease is actually leading to chronic dis-ease. |
1:33.3 | We are essentially using our culture to hijack our biology, and that is leading to all sorts of |
1:39.3 | detrimental downstream impacts. And I can unpack just some of those mechanisms. Yeah, well, |
1:44.8 | let's start off with the first one, which is from a lot of people's observation, they're looking |
1:49.2 | around, they're driving to work in the morning. And actually, a lot of people around them look |
1:54.5 | pretty stressed. So what's going on there? In modern times, we have a negative association with |
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