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Three mothers, pre-God, pre-devil.

Mother Tenebrarum, Mother Lachimarum, and Mother Suspiriorum,

darkness, tears, and sighs.

Hi, this is another Slate spoiler special podcast. I'm Dana Stevens, Slate's movie critic,

and today we're here to spoil Susperia, the new remake by Luca Guadagnino of the Italian

cult horror classic from Dario Argento. And joining me from Slate's

Philly Studios, aka his closet with the microphone, as I believe, is Sam Adams. Hey, Sam. Hello.

Sam, you are a senior editor in the culture department at Slate. I am. And you are also a frequent spoiler

companion. And I want to know before we start on Susperia, which is in a way, a discussion about both

suspirias, I think, since this one unfolds the old one in so many ways, it's kind of a discussion

about horror movies. So I just want to know before we get to either Susperia, how you feel about horror

on this Halloween week. Tell me what your visceral reactions are to seeing a scary movie. Do you crave it?

Is it an experience that you seek out? I guess I would say I both sort of crave it and dread it.

I have found myself weirdly as I get older, sort of more susceptible to the kind of the visceral

aspects of seeing horror movies.

Like, they just kind of, you know, get at me and get my adrenaline flowing and make me feel

mauled in a way that they didn't used to when I think maybe I was younger and had a less keen

sense of my own mortality.

But I also love watching them, and I love the sort of technical intensity of them. It's a really kind of technically demanding genre, maybe the most so. And I love what it gives a chance for, you know, directors and the whole sort of cinematic ensemble to do with it.

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