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Hello and welcome to Table Talk, the Spectator's Food and Drink podcast. I'm Laura Prendergast.

And I'm Olivia Potts.

And today we're delighted to be joined by Richard Madeley, the television presenter, author and journalist.

Richard, welcome to Table Talk.

I was about to add to your opening and say, I'm Richard Madeley.

Then I realised I wasn't presenting, so I shut up.

You can say, you can say it. Okay, I'm Richard Madeley, then I realised I wasn't presenting, so I shut up. You can say, you can say it.

Okay, I'm Richard May.

I'm presenting with us.

Richard, thank you so much for joining us.

We're going to start where we always do at the very beginning and ask you, what are your

earliest memories of food?

Oh, that's a great question.

Hind's tomato soup, I think. I think that's the first thing I can

actually remember my mother serving me for lunch. Heinz tomato soup, and she used to cut a slice of

white bread into squares, and I was allowed to drop them into the soup and sink them with my

spoon, and then scoop them out and sort of eat these soggy tomato soup, so lumps of bread.

I think the next, my mother was

Canadian and she was a slightly odd cook. And I think the next memory I have is of her signature

dish, which I still cook today to the disgust and the despair of my entire family, particularly

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