Do you have a favorite? Not meant to, but mostly the unloved ones, the unvisited ones, the cases that get dusty and ignored.

All the broken and shunned creatures.

Someone's got to care for them.

Who shall it be if not us?

Yes. Welcome to Roon soup, a weekly podcast about magic, culture and the very best new and old ideas for living in this world, coming to you from 43 degrees south on a small farm in deepest Tasmania.

My name is Gordon and I shall be your host.

This week we welcome to the show author, speaker, thought leader, and business consultant Carol

Sanford.

If you're around in, I guess, permaculture podcast circles, you'll likely be aware of Carol's understanding of

context and regenerative design and general design thinking continue to have an

impact on some of the most interesting project work going on at the moment. She first came to my

attention on former guest of the show Dan Palmer's own podcast making permaculture

stronger and it was fun on that episode to listen to the two of them work through

Carol's disruptive by design process. I in fact emailed Dan straight after I

finished recording with Carol to tell him that she gave me the Dan treatment too. Anyway, Carol has written

and recently published a brand new book, The Regenerative Life, and she joins us this week

to talk about it and her work in general. Enjoy. Carol Sanford, thank you very much for your time.

My pleasure, great to be with you. Wonderful. So we have a traditional first question for first time

guests, Carol, and some of it kind of peeped out in your latest amazing book. But were you

a weird kid? I was a weird kid.

I was an unpopular kid.

I was not an unhappy kid though,

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