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TBD | Will A.I. Close Off the Internet?

What Next | Daily News and Analysis

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News, Daily News, News Commentary, Politics

4.62.3K Ratings

🗓️ 21 April 2023

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

Reddit announced it will start charging companies to use its huge, ever-growing trove of text to train A.I. chatbots. It’s another expense for the fledgling tech and another knock against the “open internet” ideals that Reddit once embodied. Guest: Mike Isaac, tech reporter for the New York Times. If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast, bonus episodes of shows like Slow Burn and Dear Prudence—and you’ll be supporting the work we do here on What Next TBD. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to help support our work. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

A quick heads up before we get started, there is a little light swearing in this episode.

0:04.9

Okay, here's the show.

0:11.2

Are you a Reddit dude?

0:14.5

Do I have to admit it? Yes I am. I'm secretly a Reddit person.

0:20.0

That's reporter Mike Isaac, who writes about tech for The New York Times

0:23.8

and who's Reddit life, sorry Mike, is no longer secret.

0:28.3

I kind of was thinking maybe you were. What subreddits do you hang out on?

0:34.0

I have multiple accounts because I have a work account and then I have a secret account because

0:39.4

I don't want people to actually know when I'm talking and then I have, like, I think I have

0:46.0

like a book promotion account. But so anyway, I try to keep track of them, but mostly for fun,

0:52.7

for pleasure, I hang out and like ask me anything or the child free subreddit for people complaining

1:00.3

about children or which is insane or I don't know if I can say this on the air. Am I the asshole

1:07.2

subreddit basically which is like- That's a very good one. Yeah, I have people explaining

1:12.4

messed up situations and then like cooking and boring stuff like that and power washing actually.

1:18.9

Power washing? Yeah, people post pictures of their dirty driveways and then like an after

1:24.1

picture or video of them power washing it. It's super cool. And I don't have power washing,

1:29.6

so it's more aspirational. I just want to go on the record here and say that these videos are

1:37.8

pretty incredible and make me also want a power washer. Anyway, I'm asking Mike about his Reddit

1:44.1

habits because he recently wrote a story that fascinated me about the idea that AI models like

1:50.5

chat GPT have been using Reddit to learn how to sound human. On the one hand, Reddit can be the

1:58.3

internet's unfiltered id. So the idea that big companies like Microsoft and Google are learning

2:04.9

from it is darkly funny. If you know the culture of Reddit, super weird, super joky, very insular,

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