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Teaser: Episode 105 - Free Palestine (Ft. Decolonize Palestine)

The Deprogram

JT, Hakim, and Yugopnik

Education

4.81K Ratings

🗓️ 15 November 2023

⏱️ 3 minutes

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This episode is already available early for Patrons over at: https://www.patreon.com/TheDeprogramSupport the Podcast and get early as well as bonus episodes by donating. Help us stay 100% independent.Come hear from special guests from Decolonize Palestine in this almost 2-hour long chat! Be sure to check out their work and other Palestine-related resources at the links belowhttps://decolonizepalestine.com https://www.newarab.com/Comment/2017/9/4/Israeli-hummus-is-theft-not-appropriationD...

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0:00.0

The thing is that people come like even sometimes when they're well meaning

0:04.1

that's sometimes even worse when they're well meaning they're like oh

0:07.4

Palestinians should do this, Palestinians should do that, Palestinians should do that,

0:09.5

Palestinians should do Gandhi like I promise you over the almost century that we've been going through this we've tried everything we have done Gandhi on multiple occasions Gandhi was shot or Gandhi was ignored because it's easy to ignore if you don't have you know an audience for Gandhi to play for it's but

0:26.4

it's pointless that's the whole point of you know non-violent or non-armed struggle it doesn't work if nobody cares. Like at the end of the day it's not about

0:35.8

oh just appeal to the human side of the world. It's not about humanity. It's about

0:39.6

interest. It's about imperialism. This is not something that's like you can an ideological kind of underpinnings. Yeah exactly is not something can just like argue away like oh if the Israelis see that Palestinians are human then they'll stop bombing them. No, their lifestyle depends on Palestinians being oppressed.

0:55.4

Their whole community, their whole society was built on top of 600 destroyed Palestinian villages

1:00.8

in the 40s. You cannot convince people who've built their whole life here that, oh, if only, you know, if we talk to them, like as if it's a problem of dialogue or communication, if we only talk to them in a certain way, they'd understand that their whole society is wrong and

1:13.4

they'll just like make room or something. It's not how it works.

1:17.0

And I think it feels just kind of especially fucking egregious to me because maybe a little bit also because I lived for several years in the US most of my life in the US it feels that there are many Americans that I know who would not handle the impression that a cashier was being rude to them and that

1:36.2

would like infuriate them and ruin their whole fucking week.

1:39.6

These same people will get online and start arguing like, oh, you guys are exaggerating by saying, why is the soldier pointing a gun?

1:47.0

Literally today, why is this soldier pointing a gun at a four-year-old?

1:50.5

His finger wasn't on the trigger trigger like you guys are being really

1:53.1

fucking sensitive I guess and so it's like we're supposed to argue with this it's like

1:57.0

these people would never ever ever handle even a fraction of what

2:00.4

Palestinians have been asked to to handle over and over again.

2:04.0

They would never accept their home being demolished

2:08.0

because one person in the family was accused of a crime

2:12.0

by, you know, in the system of military courts and 97% conviction

2:16.8

rates and as Fattre was saying before administrative detention, they would never end, okay, now

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