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Frank Skinner's Poetry Podcast

Ted Hughes

Frank Skinner's Poetry Podcast

Avalon

Arts

4.81.9K Ratings

🗓️ 1 March 2023

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

This week, Ted Hughes shows us that writing a poem is like a stinking fox walking across a snow-covered field. The poem referenced are ‘The Thought Fox’ and ‘The Jaguar’.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Frank Skinner's poetry podcast. This week I would like to look at the

0:10.8

work of Ted Hughes who was incidentally not that incidentally. He was poet laureate from

0:18.7

1984 to 1998 but I'm going to look at some of his earlier stuff today. I'm going to look

0:28.4

at a couple of poems actually the same age as me. Make of that what you will. He is Ted Hughes,

0:37.6

one of those poets who is a victim of his own biography. A bit like Dylan Thomas for example,

0:48.7

people are a bit more interested in what he did than what he wrote in direct contravention of what

0:57.6

the poet W. H. Orden said about poets' biographies. He said biographies should be about people who

1:05.2

did things rather than thought things and so he didn't really approve of poets' biographies. I'm

1:13.1

kind of with him on that. If I ever do a podcast call lives of the poets, I'll make up for all this

1:20.0

but I won't do that. I discovered Ted Hughes when I was a schoolboy. Weirdly at school poetry wasn't

1:32.2

really central to my reading. Reading wasn't that central to my reading until I got into my late

1:41.2

teens but the things that really start with me from school and something I never read now was

1:49.5

short stories. Three short stories I read at school still stick with me. One of them was called a

1:58.4

sound of thunder by Ray Bradbury the science fiction writer and I think it was the idea of the

2:07.9

butterfly effect which comes from that short story that you could go back and do a minor thing

2:13.8

in time and completely change the future and then another one which again really moved me and

2:23.2

stopped with me was a story called Indian Camp by Ernest Hemingway and the third one was a 1967

2:33.9

short story by Ted Hughes called the Rain Horse and the Rain Horse I remember it so clearly and it's

2:42.8

a long long time ago. It was about a man who went back to where he grew up and he went back

2:51.3

in full office worker garb of the grey suit. I remember it as grey at least and he went for a walk

3:01.1

and it rained heavily and he got lost and he kept being attacked by this black horse that seemed to

3:08.0

represent the very raw wildness of nature read in tooth and claw as Alfred Lord Tennyson putty and

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